Discussion:
To shave or not to shave, that's the question!
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Nathaniel Clerb
2005-12-13 11:08:34 UTC
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My boyfriend doesn't like the hair on my balls, the hair on my leg, the
hair on my chest and the hair on my back.

But I enjoy being a "bear" and my fur is my castle.

I love my boyfriend, but I don't want to shave.He threatens to leave
me.

What should I do now? Please help.
tulle
2005-12-13 11:49:01 UTC
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Post by Nathaniel Clerb
My boyfriend doesn't like the hair on my balls, the hair on my leg, the
hair on my chest and the hair on my back.
But I enjoy being a "bear" and my fur is my castle.
I love my boyfriend, but I don't want to shave.He threatens to leave
me.
What should I do now? Please help.
Someone who threatens to leave you because you don't shave, does not
love you. I like it when my boyfriend shaves (I find it very sexy), but
would not even think of leaving him if when he does not. (He goes
through stages, for a few months he will shave and then not do it for
awhile.) I suggest you do whatever you want, and if he leaves you, find
someone that accepts you for you, and not how much hair you have on
your body.

tulle
Bonnie Bitch
2005-12-13 17:32:16 UTC
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On 13 Dec 2005 03:49:01 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Nathaniel Clerb
My boyfriend doesn't like the hair on my balls, the hair on my leg, the
hair on my chest and the hair on my back.
But I enjoy being a "bear" and my fur is my castle.
I love my boyfriend, but I don't want to shave.He threatens to leave
me.
What should I do now? Please help.
Someone who threatens to leave you because you don't shave, does not
love you. I like it when my boyfriend shaves (I find it very sexy), but
would not even think of leaving him if when he does not. (He goes
through stages, for a few months he will shave and then not do it for
awhile.) I suggest you do whatever you want, and if he leaves you, find
someone that accepts you for you, and not how much hair you have on
your body.
So, pardon me for being nosy, but what's the big to-do about shaving?
I'm just not gettin' it.

Bonnie Bitch, Bear Addict
tulle
2005-12-13 18:01:44 UTC
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Post by Bonnie Bitch
On 13 Dec 2005 03:49:01 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Nathaniel Clerb
My boyfriend doesn't like the hair on my balls, the hair on my leg, the
hair on my chest and the hair on my back.
But I enjoy being a "bear" and my fur is my castle.
I love my boyfriend, but I don't want to shave.He threatens to leave
me.
What should I do now? Please help.
Someone who threatens to leave you because you don't shave, does not
love you. I like it when my boyfriend shaves (I find it very sexy), but
would not even think of leaving him if when he does not. (He goes
through stages, for a few months he will shave and then not do it for
awhile.) I suggest you do whatever you want, and if he leaves you, find
someone that accepts you for you, and not how much hair you have on
your body.
So, pardon me for being nosy, but what's the big to-do about shaving?
I'm just not gettin' it.
Good question. I honestly have no idea. But I have to admit that I like
it when he shaves. Maybe it's just because he doesn't do it all the
time. I don't know. Gee, if I understood why people like and don't like
certain things, I'd be rich. The main point I was trying to make is
that if you truely love someone you would not demand that they do
something they did not want to do.

tulle
Post by Bonnie Bitch
Bonnie Bitch, Bear Addict
Bonnie Bitch
2005-12-13 19:10:43 UTC
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On 13 Dec 2005 10:01:44 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Bonnie Bitch
On 13 Dec 2005 03:49:01 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Nathaniel Clerb
My boyfriend doesn't like the hair on my balls, the hair on my leg, the
hair on my chest and the hair on my back.
But I enjoy being a "bear" and my fur is my castle.
I love my boyfriend, but I don't want to shave.He threatens to leave
me.
What should I do now? Please help.
Someone who threatens to leave you because you don't shave, does not
love you. I like it when my boyfriend shaves (I find it very sexy), but
would not even think of leaving him if when he does not. (He goes
through stages, for a few months he will shave and then not do it for
awhile.) I suggest you do whatever you want, and if he leaves you, find
someone that accepts you for you, and not how much hair you have on
your body.
So, pardon me for being nosy, but what's the big to-do about shaving?
I'm just not gettin' it.
Good question. I honestly have no idea.
Well, now, T, that doesn't help me, does it?
I need to be able to inform my next boyfriend (may all the gods in the
universe pity that poor man's soul!) why I'm not shaving for him.
Post by tulle
But I have to admit that I like
it when he shaves. Maybe it's just because he doesn't do it all the
time. I don't know. Gee, if I understood why people like and don't like
certain things, I'd be rich. The main point I was trying to make is
that if you truely love someone you would not demand that they do
something they did not want to do.
Ok, but what about asking them to try new things, and you've already
promised not to make the cuffs too tight?
tulle
2005-12-13 19:13:11 UTC
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Post by Bonnie Bitch
On 13 Dec 2005 10:01:44 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Bonnie Bitch
On 13 Dec 2005 03:49:01 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Nathaniel Clerb
My boyfriend doesn't like the hair on my balls, the hair on my leg, the
hair on my chest and the hair on my back.
But I enjoy being a "bear" and my fur is my castle.
I love my boyfriend, but I don't want to shave.He threatens to leave
me.
What should I do now? Please help.
Someone who threatens to leave you because you don't shave, does not
love you. I like it when my boyfriend shaves (I find it very sexy), but
would not even think of leaving him if when he does not. (He goes
through stages, for a few months he will shave and then not do it for
awhile.) I suggest you do whatever you want, and if he leaves you, find
someone that accepts you for you, and not how much hair you have on
your body.
So, pardon me for being nosy, but what's the big to-do about shaving?
I'm just not gettin' it.
Good question. I honestly have no idea.
Well, now, T, that doesn't help me, does it?
I need to be able to inform my next boyfriend (may all the gods in the
universe pity that poor man's soul!) why I'm not shaving for him.
Post by tulle
But I have to admit that I like
it when he shaves. Maybe it's just because he doesn't do it all the
time. I don't know. Gee, if I understood why people like and don't like
certain things, I'd be rich. The main point I was trying to make is
that if you truely love someone you would not demand that they do
something they did not want to do.
Ok, but what about asking them to try new things, and you've already
promised not to make the cuffs too tight?
Er. what makes you think the cuffs where too tight:-) He didn't say
anything.:-)

tulle
Bonnie Bitch
2005-12-13 19:21:14 UTC
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On 13 Dec 2005 11:13:11 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Bonnie Bitch
On 13 Dec 2005 10:01:44 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Bonnie Bitch
On 13 Dec 2005 03:49:01 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Nathaniel Clerb
My boyfriend doesn't like the hair on my balls, the hair on my leg, the
hair on my chest and the hair on my back.
But I enjoy being a "bear" and my fur is my castle.
I love my boyfriend, but I don't want to shave.He threatens to leave
me.
What should I do now? Please help.
Someone who threatens to leave you because you don't shave, does not
love you. I like it when my boyfriend shaves (I find it very sexy), but
would not even think of leaving him if when he does not. (He goes
through stages, for a few months he will shave and then not do it for
awhile.) I suggest you do whatever you want, and if he leaves you, find
someone that accepts you for you, and not how much hair you have on
your body.
So, pardon me for being nosy, but what's the big to-do about shaving?
I'm just not gettin' it.
Good question. I honestly have no idea.
Well, now, T, that doesn't help me, does it?
I need to be able to inform my next boyfriend (may all the gods in the
universe pity that poor man's soul!) why I'm not shaving for him.
Post by tulle
But I have to admit that I like
it when he shaves. Maybe it's just because he doesn't do it all the
time. I don't know. Gee, if I understood why people like and don't like
certain things, I'd be rich. The main point I was trying to make is
that if you truely love someone you would not demand that they do
something they did not want to do.
Ok, but what about asking them to try new things, and you've already
promised not to make the cuffs too tight?
Er. what makes you think the cuffs where too tight:-) He didn't say
anything.:-)
That begs another question: how do you use a safety word when the gag
is already inserted?
tulle
2005-12-13 19:51:54 UTC
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Post by Bonnie Bitch
On 13 Dec 2005 11:13:11 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Bonnie Bitch
On 13 Dec 2005 10:01:44 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Bonnie Bitch
On 13 Dec 2005 03:49:01 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Nathaniel Clerb
My boyfriend doesn't like the hair on my balls, the hair on my leg, the
hair on my chest and the hair on my back.
But I enjoy being a "bear" and my fur is my castle.
I love my boyfriend, but I don't want to shave.He threatens to leave
me.
What should I do now? Please help.
Someone who threatens to leave you because you don't shave, does not
love you. I like it when my boyfriend shaves (I find it very sexy), but
would not even think of leaving him if when he does not. (He goes
through stages, for a few months he will shave and then not do it for
awhile.) I suggest you do whatever you want, and if he leaves you, find
someone that accepts you for you, and not how much hair you have on
your body.
So, pardon me for being nosy, but what's the big to-do about shaving?
I'm just not gettin' it.
Good question. I honestly have no idea.
Well, now, T, that doesn't help me, does it?
I need to be able to inform my next boyfriend (may all the gods in the
universe pity that poor man's soul!) why I'm not shaving for him.
Post by tulle
But I have to admit that I like
it when he shaves. Maybe it's just because he doesn't do it all the
time. I don't know. Gee, if I understood why people like and don't like
certain things, I'd be rich. The main point I was trying to make is
that if you truely love someone you would not demand that they do
something they did not want to do.
Ok, but what about asking them to try new things, and you've already
promised not to make the cuffs too tight?
Er. what makes you think the cuffs where too tight:-) He didn't say
anything.:-)
That begs another question: how do you use a safety word when the gag
is already inserted?
Er, ah you got me on that one. Maybe a safety blink. Er, no couldn't
see it with the blindfold. Give me a few minutes to think about it. :-)

always up for new things
tulle
Bonnie Bitch
2005-12-13 21:04:06 UTC
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On 13 Dec 2005 11:51:54 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Bonnie Bitch
On 13 Dec 2005 11:13:11 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Bonnie Bitch
On 13 Dec 2005 10:01:44 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Bonnie Bitch
On 13 Dec 2005 03:49:01 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Nathaniel Clerb
My boyfriend doesn't like the hair on my balls, the hair on my leg, the
hair on my chest and the hair on my back.
But I enjoy being a "bear" and my fur is my castle.
I love my boyfriend, but I don't want to shave.He threatens to leave
me.
What should I do now? Please help.
Someone who threatens to leave you because you don't shave, does not
love you. I like it when my boyfriend shaves (I find it very sexy), but
would not even think of leaving him if when he does not. (He goes
through stages, for a few months he will shave and then not do it for
awhile.) I suggest you do whatever you want, and if he leaves you, find
someone that accepts you for you, and not how much hair you have on
your body.
So, pardon me for being nosy, but what's the big to-do about shaving?
I'm just not gettin' it.
Good question. I honestly have no idea.
Well, now, T, that doesn't help me, does it?
I need to be able to inform my next boyfriend (may all the gods in the
universe pity that poor man's soul!) why I'm not shaving for him.
Post by tulle
But I have to admit that I like
it when he shaves. Maybe it's just because he doesn't do it all the
time. I don't know. Gee, if I understood why people like and don't like
certain things, I'd be rich. The main point I was trying to make is
that if you truely love someone you would not demand that they do
something they did not want to do.
Ok, but what about asking them to try new things, and you've already
promised not to make the cuffs too tight?
Er. what makes you think the cuffs where too tight:-) He didn't say
anything.:-)
That begs another question: how do you use a safety word when the gag
is already inserted?
Er, ah you got me on that one. Maybe a safety blink. Er, no couldn't
see it with the blindfold. Give me a few minutes to think about it. :-)
Perhaps a safety thrust?
Post by tulle
always up for new things
Thanks for sharing.
Chris Ambidge
2005-12-13 21:52:18 UTC
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[bonnie and tulle]
Post by tulle
Post by Bonnie Bitch
Post by tulle
Er. what makes you think the cuffs where too tight:-) He didn't say
anything.:-)
That begs another question: how do you use a safety word when the gag
is already inserted?
Er, ah you got me on that one. Maybe a safety blink. Er, no couldn't
see it with the blindfold. Give me a few minutes to think about it. :-)
while I'm enjoying the conversation, a solution that I've heard
of (from a friend of mine who goes to runs where cuffs and ball-
gags feature) is to give the bottom a small object -- a brightly
coloured child's toy (yellow-red squeezy ball, maybe) that they
hold in their hand, and to "safeword" they drop the object.


manly panda
--
"it's much more fun to use goats. you can scrape them off and use them again"
... tim mcdaniel
tulle
2005-12-13 19:17:16 UTC
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Post by Bonnie Bitch
On 13 Dec 2005 10:01:44 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Bonnie Bitch
On 13 Dec 2005 03:49:01 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Nathaniel Clerb
My boyfriend doesn't like the hair on my balls, the hair on my leg, the
hair on my chest and the hair on my back.
But I enjoy being a "bear" and my fur is my castle.
I love my boyfriend, but I don't want to shave.He threatens to leave
me.
What should I do now? Please help.
Someone who threatens to leave you because you don't shave, does not
love you. I like it when my boyfriend shaves (I find it very sexy), but
would not even think of leaving him if when he does not. (He goes
through stages, for a few months he will shave and then not do it for
awhile.) I suggest you do whatever you want, and if he leaves you, find
someone that accepts you for you, and not how much hair you have on
your body.
So, pardon me for being nosy, but what's the big to-do about shaving?
I'm just not gettin' it.
Good question. I honestly have no idea.
Well, now, T, that doesn't help me, does it?
I need to be able to inform my next boyfriend (may all the gods in the
universe pity that poor man's soul!) why I'm not shaving for him.
Post by tulle
But I have to admit that I like
it when he shaves. Maybe it's just because he doesn't do it all the
time. I don't know. Gee, if I understood why people like and don't like
certain things, I'd be rich. The main point I was trying to make is
that if you truely love someone you would not demand that they do
something they did not want to do.
Ok, but what about asking them to try new things, and you've already
promised not to make the cuffs too tight?
Asking is not demanding. It is always ok to ask. But one should never
demand. And what if he wants the cuffs too tight? You never know until
you try it.

tulle
Bonnie Bitch
2005-12-13 19:22:32 UTC
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On 13 Dec 2005 11:17:16 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Bonnie Bitch
On 13 Dec 2005 10:01:44 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Bonnie Bitch
On 13 Dec 2005 03:49:01 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
Post by tulle
Post by Nathaniel Clerb
My boyfriend doesn't like the hair on my balls, the hair on my leg, the
hair on my chest and the hair on my back.
But I enjoy being a "bear" and my fur is my castle.
I love my boyfriend, but I don't want to shave.He threatens to leave
me.
What should I do now? Please help.
Someone who threatens to leave you because you don't shave, does not
love you. I like it when my boyfriend shaves (I find it very sexy), but
would not even think of leaving him if when he does not. (He goes
through stages, for a few months he will shave and then not do it for
awhile.) I suggest you do whatever you want, and if he leaves you, find
someone that accepts you for you, and not how much hair you have on
your body.
So, pardon me for being nosy, but what's the big to-do about shaving?
I'm just not gettin' it.
Good question. I honestly have no idea.
Well, now, T, that doesn't help me, does it?
I need to be able to inform my next boyfriend (may all the gods in the
universe pity that poor man's soul!) why I'm not shaving for him.
Post by tulle
But I have to admit that I like
it when he shaves. Maybe it's just because he doesn't do it all the
time. I don't know. Gee, if I understood why people like and don't like
certain things, I'd be rich. The main point I was trying to make is
that if you truely love someone you would not demand that they do
something they did not want to do.
Ok, but what about asking them to try new things, and you've already
promised not to make the cuffs too tight?
Asking is not demanding. It is always ok to ask. But one should never
demand. And what if he wants the cuffs too tight? You never know until
you try it.
And what if he'll exchange some spanky-spanky for looser cuffs? That's
more of a win-win for all the contestants, eh?
Bonnie Bitch
2005-12-13 17:30:53 UTC
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On 13 Dec 2005 03:08:34 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Nathaniel
Post by Nathaniel Clerb
My boyfriend doesn't like the hair on my balls, the hair on my leg, the
hair on my chest and the hair on my back.
Does your boyfriend own/operate a vagina?
I only ask because the only people I've ever heard complain about make
body hair are vagina owners/operators.
Post by Nathaniel Clerb
But I enjoy being a "bear" and my fur is my castle.
Plus, it's your body.
Post by Nathaniel Clerb
I love my boyfriend, but I don't want to shave.He threatens to leave
me.
What should I do now? Please help.
Couples therapy. It's not _really_ about the hair, ya know.

Happy Chanukah!
Merry Christmas/Feliz Navidad/Joyeux Noël/Frohe Weihnachten/Prettige
Kerstmis!
Faaaabulous Kwanzaa!
Merry Yule!
Super Solstice!
Happy New Year!

(Sorry if I left anyone out)

Rev. Bonnie Bitch, ULC, MM, FOAD Signatory
tulle
2005-12-13 18:00:38 UTC
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Post by Bonnie Bitch
On 13 Dec 2005 03:08:34 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Nathaniel
Post by Nathaniel Clerb
My boyfriend doesn't like the hair on my balls, the hair on my leg, the
hair on my chest and the hair on my back.
Does your boyfriend own/operate a vagina?
I only ask because the only people I've ever heard complain about make
body hair are vagina owners/operators.
Post by Nathaniel Clerb
But I enjoy being a "bear" and my fur is my castle.
Plus, it's your body.
Post by Nathaniel Clerb
I love my boyfriend, but I don't want to shave.He threatens to leave
me.
What should I do now? Please help.
Couples therapy. It's not _really_ about the hair, ya know.
I hate you Bonnie!!!!:-) Your answers are always so much better than
mine!!!!!!!

Really there is only love and respect in me for you, and Super Solstice
to you too.
tulle
Post by Bonnie Bitch
Happy Chanukah!
Merry Christmas/Feliz Navidad/Joyeux Noël/Frohe Weihnachten/Prettige
Kerstmis!
Faaaabulous Kwanzaa!
Merry Yule!
Super Solstice!
Happy New Year!
(Sorry if I left anyone out)
Rev. Bonnie Bitch, ULC, MM, FOAD Signatory
Arnold Zwicky
2005-12-13 19:11:11 UTC
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Post by Nathaniel Clerb
My boyfriend doesn't like the hair on my balls, the hair on my leg,
the hair on my chest and the hair on my back.
But I enjoy being a "bear" and my fur is my castle.
I love my boyfriend, but I don't want to shave.He threatens to leave
me.
What should I do now? Please help.
ultimatums are almost always Bad Things in a relationship (unless one
of you has been acting in a self-destructive or hurtful way, which
isn't the case here -- and then there's already a Bad Thing in the
relationship, the ultimatum isn't the real problem). the only good
advice is that the two of you have to think this though and talk it
over. but some things to think about...

a warning: if your boyfriend wants you to change yourself so that you
become his Ideal Man (your hairiness being your only important
shortcoming in his eyes), any changes you make might turn out to be
not as satisfying as the two of you had hoped.

but you need to learn more about what it means for him *not to like*
your body hair. what kind of taste or distaste are we talking about
here? does he find smooth bodies incredibly arousing, so that a hairy
body lacks that erotic power? if so, maybe the two of you might be
willing to settle for sex that is not the hottest of your lives, but
merely pleasant; there's more to your relationship than getting each
other off, right?

on the other hand, does he have an active distaste for hairy bodies,
an arousal-killing distaste, so that sex with you (in your current
bearish state) is pretty icky? then you're probably in real trouble;
one of you is going to have to change -- either you smooth up, or he
learns to eroticize body hair (yes, you'd have to *practice*), or the
two of you accept that to be satisfied by sex with you he's going to
need to run a fantasy in his head (which you might need to feed
verbally).

what about outside getting off together? is your hairiness an
impediment, in his mind, to physical affection between you -- to
embracing, stroking, cuddling, kissing? (i assume that since you're
boyfriends and not just tricking occasionally, physical affection is a
big thing for the two of you.) the pleasures of physical affection
don't have to involve raging hard-ons, and it's often possible to get
enormous satisfaction from intimacy with someone whose body type (or
whatever) isn't really your genital cup of tea. if that works for the
two of you, you might negotiate upping your affection levels, say by
talking to each other wrapped in each other's arms, rather than
sitting side by side or across a table from one another. (and learn
to ask for it. one thing that kept going awry for jacques and me for
some years is that i had a busy, intense life and tended to take him
for granted, while he had a very high need for affection, so he
frequently felt neglected. eventually he told me this, rather
resentfully, and i worked on giving him more affection time -- after
all, i loved it too -- and he learned to ask for it, saying things
like "i need to be in your arms".)

on the other hand, if your boyfriend finds cuddling up with a hairy
guy kind of icky, you've got a serious problem. even more so if he
finds hairy guys unpleasant to just look at. (well, at least your
hairy balls are not an issue here.)

on your part, you're feeling rejected by him, and you probably haven't
explained that to him. probably something else for you two to talk
about.

instead, you've said that you're a bear by nature (literally) and you
like that. but you haven't articulated any of the positive values
that your fur has for you, or what you feel you'd lose (besides your
hair) if you shaved. i'll bet that your sense of masculinity is
somewhere in this package of feelings. if so, you should tell your
boyfriend about that.

yeah, i know, you both are thinking, well if he really loved me, he'd
understand. that's so much bullshit. neither of you is a fuckin'
mind-reader. you have to explain your feelings to one another. (most
guys just hate to do this -- they tend to see this kind of talk as a
confession of weakness -- and fags are not much better than straight
guys on this front. get over it, honey.)

in fact, when there's a problem in a relationship is usually a good
time to unpack something of what each of you means when he says "i
love you" to the other. why do you want to spend time with him?
yeah, you feel good when you're around him, he makes you happy, maybe
even makes you feel like a better person when you're together -- and
you should tell him so, but you should try to be as specific as
possible. what's admirable or delightful about him? be specific,
give examples, and be positive. and ask him to do the same for you.
then you'll have an inventory of reasons to stay together, despite the
current glitch that's taking up so much of your joint attention.

not every glitch is fixable, not every difference resolvable, even
with the best will on both sides and the clearest mutual understanding
of the situation. but if you go the bye-bye-boyfriend route, that
inventory can now serve as a list of reasons to continue as friends
(or buddies, or girlfriends, depending on how you like to think of
these things).

a very practical point: your boyfriend probably doesn't realize what a
hassle body-shaving is. most of the guys who are into getting shaved
or shaving other guys -- and aren't bodybuilders or swimmers or models
or pornstars -- do it for the erotic charge it provides them, and are
willing to go through the trouble that body-shaving involves, just to
get that charge. but... you'll need help, at the very least for
shaving your back; this is not a one-man job. and... if you're a
naturally hairy guy, you're going to be into the stubble zone very
very quickly, and that stubble is *mean* stuff, man, itchy for you and
painful for anybody who gets up close and personal with you. as a
result, you're going to have to get shaved regularly, maybe even every
few days, depending on how bad the stubble problem is. i hope your
boyfriend understands what he's asking of you. i also wonder if he'd
be willing to learn how to do the shaving for you, or to pay for a
professional -- yes, there are such people -- to do it.

b a in p a
Tim McDaniel
2005-12-13 20:18:30 UTC
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Post by Arnold Zwicky
isn't really your genital cup of tea.
Now isn't THAT an arresting metaphor!
--
Tim "I'm soaking them in tea to get the wrinkles out" McDaniel;
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Arnold Zwicky
2005-12-13 21:18:37 UTC
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Post by Tim McDaniel
Post by Arnold Zwicky
isn't really your genital cup of tea.
Now isn't THAT an arresting metaphor!
kind of show-offy, actually, but i needed something to moderate the
heavily avuncular tone of the posting.

fox silver
Arne Adolfsen
2005-12-14 14:22:53 UTC
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Post by Nathaniel Clerb
My boyfriend doesn't like the hair on my balls, the hair on my leg, the
hair on my chest and the hair on my back.
But I enjoy being a "bear" and my fur is my castle.
I love my boyfriend, but I don't want to shave.He threatens to leave
me.
What should I do now? Please help.
I think you should buy sheets of cotton felt (bright orange or maybe
lime-green is my suggestion) and glue them onto your boyfriend's balls,
legs, chest and back.

Arne

P.S. If he can't deal with your body hair get him out of your life.
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